Dr. Anthony Fauci in his own words "Even before it was proven to be HIV, everybody knew who was in the field that it had to be a virus."

TWiV 219: Fauci pharmacy
Hosts: Vincent Racaniello, Rich Condit, and Anthony S. Fauci

Vincent and Rich meet up with Anthony S. Fauci, MD, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

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Throughout this series of audio hallucinations, you will not believe your ears.  I have excerpted from it, with time cues and some commentary here: 

Three of my favorite quotes:

"Even before it was proven to be HIV, everybody knew who was in the field that it had to be a virus."

[YES, "EVERYBODY KNEW," AS IN, FOR THE MAN WITH NO SHOES, SHOES ARE THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE–EXCEPT FOR THE MAN WITH NO LEGS, FOR WHOM THE ABSENCE OF SHOES TELLS US NOTHING ABOUT WHY HIS LIMBS ARE MISSING.]

"We tried years ago of artificially activating the immune system in vivo, getting the virus to spit out while you’re giving them antiretrovirals thinking that you would prevent the other cells from getting infected from the virus that was released by your antiviral therapy and the cell that was spitting out the virus would die. Unfortunately, the cells that was [sic] spitting out the virus didn’t die. They just spit out the virus and we prevented other cells from getting infected. So it didn’t work but there are more clever, sophisticated ways of doing that. That’s called eradication cure.'"

THOSE DAMNED T-CELLS JUST LIVE FOREVER!! 

"..we focused a lot on the developing world, particularly in sub-Saharan Africa. We went there. We set up networks of trials, collaborations. And then when you get them, you realized, “Oh, my goodness, AIDS is devastating,” but malaria is really bad, as is TB, as is neglected tropical diseases. So in some uncanny way, AIDS has put the spotlight on global diseases of high significance that we did not appreciate before because it was them not us. Now that we’re living in a global society, it’s everything that we’re aware of. "

[WHAT AMAZING INSIGHTS DR. FAUCI CAN HAVE (IN AN UNCANNY SORT OF WAY.)

Yours for HIV-AIDS Industry entertainment,
--Terry Michael

Links for this episode:

• Fauci history (J Clin Inves) 
• Transcript of this episode (thanks, Dr. Fernandez!)
• Fauci Pharmacy
• Anthony Fauci (Wikipedia)
• Anthony Fauci: Unfinished business (Lens)

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